The view from outside of the black liberation theology camp is that people are cheering Obama’s pastor, Rev. Jermiah Wright, because:
- It is easier to respond to racism and hate with one’s own brand of racism – rather than really following the high road shown by MLK Jr., it is much easier to give in to the impatient and selfish hate-for-hate rhetoric of those like Farrakhan and race-baiters like Wright.
- Many in the black community seem to like to choose such anti-heroes like Wright, because real heroes like Bill Cosby, Juan Williams, and Clarence Thomas ask people to forsake the victim mentality and blame shifting, and take responsibility for their lives.
- Wright is being championed for the same reason that some in the black community embraced O.J. Simpson – because he took on ‘the man,’ i.e.’whitey’, and got away with it. People who embrace a victim mentality choose heroes who will reinforce their perspective, and who will rejoice in rebellion against authority rather than in what is truly right.
Do You think rev. wrights demo video of Bill Clinton riding dirty (to illistrate him scruing the black race)and video taped in front of children, we know it was video taped was it handed out to hundreds that day in church only to be e-mailed on to there friends and family members in Mississippi just be for there vote?
I gess my question is did Rev. Wright Jack up the black vote to over 90% in Mississippi???? and god knows where else????
For not to question the Rev. Wright is to for get the massacre at Jonestown.
We as man did not question Jim Joans at the time he needed questioning and when man tried to question a man of god people rose up and siad no no no he is a man of god and so he was aload to kill over 800 people with his sick movement.
So Saith the Lord Question not Rev. Wright for he is a man of God so saith the Party.
What is this movement of REV. Wright and could it get out of control? Is it a danger to man this teaching of hate in a church little children should never hear this languge or see a man of god humpping asying riding dirty riding dirty has he humps in front of little children WHERE IS THE MEDIA QUESTIONS ON HUMPING IN CHURCH?
While Wright may be correct about God's judgment on our nation, he is no MLK Jr – that's an insult to righteousness and godliness. That's like me putting a quote from Jerry Falwell up there that sounds similar to MLK.
Now, if Wright were talking about the high abortion rate among blacks, that might be something – in fact, that is exactly what the founder of Planned Parenthood wanted – a reduction in the black people who are a drain on society.
MLK never attacked white people. Wright should learn the lesson – he really is an ugly reflection of what Godliness ought to be. He says he 'loves his enemies,' but he clearly does not.
He would do well to remember that judgment comes 'first to the house of God.'
"Not God bless America, God damn America! God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
– Reverend Wright ——->
Yes, po po Rev.Wright.
So mistreated as he moves into his palatial estate in a gated community, surrounded by typical white people.
I wonder if he is going to have room for all of those kind of odd but expensive looking suits he wore on the platform.
Will he have a circle drive or will he have to actually back up and turn that Mercedes around?
All of that square footage is going to be awfully tough for an older man and wife to keep neat and picked up, but then I guess he will have a cleaning crew(maid(s), could even be white)of one or two.
And in this era of high fuel prices, wow, won't that palace be expensive to heat and cool? How will he afford that.
Yes, God damn America! The evilness of this country!
Why do many blacks applaud Rev. Wright?
Because of the victimhood taught and propagated among blacks, in their churches, homes and from generations of lib doctrine. And if you happen to be the wright, i mean right black person you can make a hell of a lot of money selling out your country and race.
MLK never attacked white people. Wright should learn the lesson – he really is an ugly reflection of what Godliness ought to be. He says he 'loves his enemies,' but he clearly does not.
"I am sorry to have to say that the vast majority of white Americans are racist, either consciously or unconsciously." In a sermon to his congregation in 1968, King openly questioned whether blacks should celebrate the nation's 1976 bicentennial. "You know why?" King asked. "Because it [the Declaration of Independence] has never had any real meaning in terms of implementation in our lives."
"MLK never attacked white people. Wright should learn the lesson – he really is an ugly reflection of what Godliness ought to be. He says he 'loves his enemies,' but he clearly does not." ——->
Love does not generate the emotional response nor the cash that suspicion and hate gins up. As long as this type of nonsense is preached and held on to, by any group, "racism" will be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Love does not generate the emotional response nor the cash that suspicion and hate gins up.
The real reason is that hate takes no personal sacrifice or surrender to God. MLK accomplished much more than a preacher like Wright ever can, because out of love for his fellow man and country, he refused to hate, and taught others the same.
Sure, King preached that God would judge a nation that disobeyed God, but he also put himself among the repentant, and lived a life of example, not just criticism.
MLK accomplished much more than a preacher like Wright ever can, because out of love for his fellow man and country, he refused to hate, and taught others the same.
In the same year, King bitterly suggested that black folk couldn't trust America, comparing blacks to the Japanese who had been interred in concentration camps during World War II. "And you know what, a nation that put as many Japanese in a concentration camp as they did in the '40s … will put black people in a concentration camp. And I'm not interested in being in any concentration camp. I been on the reservation too long now." Earlier, King had written that America "was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race."
All 3 MLK quotes sound like Wright. Commence with the excuses for why they don't, starting now…
I think this is the classic problem with modern liberals. Many can't discern the difference between a fraud and the real thing, between an ideological opponent and a murderous one. The difference is, they may SAY the same things, but in their essence, they are very different.
This is why, for example, liberals can't tell the difference between fundamentalist Christians and Muslims.
The difference is, they may SAY the same things, but in their essence, they are very different.
They same the same things but they don't mean the same things. Conservatives are retarded.
That should read…
"The difference is, they may SAY the same things, but in their essence, they are very different."
They SAY the same things but they don't mean the same things. Conservatives are retarded.
I think your use of 'retarded' is a bigoted statement against handicapped people. You suck! ;)
"I am sorry to have to say that the vast majority of white Americans are racist, either consciously or unconsciously." ——->
40 years approximately since MLK. We still have the hate whitey mentality, crazy birth rates out of wed lock, prison systems packed with young blacks and rampant drug use/gangsta life style adoption. Looks like maybe MLK had it all wrong. Forty years of introspection should have led to absorption into American culture, not derision of it. Racism knows no bounds, only what we personally allow to exist.
"Earlier, King had written that America "was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race." ——->
So. Every culture is born on the backs of the conquered. That is the nature of man. That is what has brought us to the great Democracy that we live in. No amount of guilt will change this quite natural path man takes. In fact it would be unnatural to try and change it. The weak fall, the strong survive. I thought Atheists already knew this to be true? You know, evolution and all that.
So anyway, all 3 MLK quotes sound like Wright. The substance of what they are saying is identical yet Wright is vilified and MLK gets a free pass.
So. Every culture is born on the backs of the conquered. That is the nature of man. That is what has brought us to the great Democracy that we live in. No amount of guilt will change this quite natural path man takes. In fact it would be unnatural to try and change it. The weak fall, the strong survive. I thought Atheists already knew this to be true? You know, evolution and all that.
What a strange argument coming from a supposed Christian. Sounds more like the position of a Social Darwinist. seeker?
Why is it strange coming from a Christian? Or anyone else for that matter? It is merely the truth.
I did not say that was my personal view on how to exercise my free will. But the scriptures simply say that a man's heart dwells on the bad, and man is more easily motivated by the badness in his being. When not motivated by the thought that God is a person and that one's actions may actually cause hurt to His heart, man will do bad things without benefit of conscience. It is the natural course of man when he does not exercise Christian(Godlike/God given)values. And a struggle even when he does exercise that wisdom, as, like I stated, he is naturally "bad" leaning. Certainly it is not any Christian thought that I lean towards, in that man is basically good. History does not prove that out. My point of view does not make me non-Christian, just realistic.
But this country, being born out of Hellenistic democracy and a Christian doctrine backbone is quite different from the other conquerors down through time. As a very young country, we abolished slavery, entering a bloody Civil War that sealed slavery's fate. We have always been the protector and partner of those countries in need of a hand toward Democracy, in more modern times, because it is the morally correct thing to do. Morals driven by scriptural wisdom. And we left that "conqueror" mentality along time ago.(We would rather act in conjunction with allies, but the tough minded allies of the past, say the 80's, have dried up under Socialist leadership and the changes in the world political landscape. All but Great Britain, but even they waver at times.)The US is the one great, beautiful, free country left.(Although with our growing influence in Eastern Europe recently, I hope we can change that). I would have hoped that a man who is able to take advantage of all that is offered, Wright, would instead of ginning up racial hatred could have been honest about it, 4o years after MLK. God damn? Oh no, Reverend, God has blessed you with your birth here.
"So anyway, all 3 MLK quotes sound like Wright. The substance of what they are saying is identical yet Wright is vilified and MLK gets a free pass." ——->
Much like JFK, MLK has achieved God like status. So, to express that he was incorrect makes a person a heretic. Especially if that person would be white. I think that sure helps to insulate him from his comments. The comments taken from him and posted here, are in fact, to me, incorrect for the most part.
40 years approximately since MLK. We still have the hate whitey mentality, crazy birth rates out of wed lock, prison systems packed with young blacks and rampant drug use/gangsta life style adoption. Looks like maybe MLK had it all wrong. Forty years of introspection should have led to absorption into American culture, not derision of it. Racism knows no bounds, only what we personally allow to exist.
40 years of Lib policy "for the people" has failed, done nothing for the black constituency except cement them solidly in a spiral of failure.
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Why do many blacks applaud Rev. Wright? Rev Wright speaks out for alot of how black americans feel and have felt for many years.and he is speaking biblical content. I'm a christian, grew up in a white dominated city. Most of my school days I was the only black in my class. And at an early age recognized the DIFFERENCE of people BLACK/WHITE. As a young mom of four children I've experienced harsh racism moving into and living in a white neighborhood, have two of my elementary school aged children come home telling me that they were called a nigger, and one telling me on not one occassion but several occassions being called a monkey by this little white girl who says her mommy says you need to go back into the jungle. Back to Rev Wright, there have been some things that you can not cover with a band aide and think that it will heal. I don't think it is Rev Wright, or Senator Obama who need to apologize, or distance themselves. McCain and Clinton as well as many white americans need to be able to reach these people in a different way than they have in the past. You need to say look we know that slavery was wrong, we know that there are judicial injustices that we need to look into and fix, we need to listen to what the black people have been saying all along. WE ARE EQUAL, WE ARE GOD'S CHILDREN. Any one that does not understand what Rev Wright is saying needs to pick up the bible and read it for yourself… even those minister, pastors that have come been invited to the media FoxNews, MSN, and all the other top rated news medias. We know how the media works. Stop acting like racism is not an issue that needs to be addressed. It is not in the past. Its meets with most of us everyday, all day long. We hear and are listening… we heard Hillary say "McCain and myself are the better
canidate" I said what did she mean by that…. I've heard some of the speakers/analysis say those people. Rev Wright is right when he says that there is racism, and what about some of our history that we could never find in the school's history books, or even have
books in our school library that were anything close to a black child growing up, coming of age, or still walking into or shopping on the internet for christmas toys for black little girls or boys.
These things did not and bearly exist today. I don't defend all of what Wright says but I have a story, I know what it is like to be BLACK in America. It is not easy for the black women and much harder for the black male. Those who don't say it… just refuse to see it. Blacks and whites alike have a behind closed door conversation. I think it needs to be brought to the table. Last I heard there is freedom of speech, or does it depend on who you are?
And it is a shame that the media, and the election of 08 have found the one thing that could keep Senator Barak Obama from becoming the first Black President of the United States and it is something that he has not done or said personally but has been held accountable for the actions of a grown man who is responsible enough to handle his own. Genesis 6 – 9 speaks of a human race becoming evil, the flood, and a New Beginning. God does punish sin and protects righteousness. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, God sent a deliver sho became a member of the Egyptian royal family who later became a outcast – Moses. God took care of the enemy who held a chosen group of people captive in Exodus. Read Revelations. God is a jealous God….. and God is Angry. We have to see the mess that we are in before we can appreciate the God we have. Before presenting the grace of God, we must understand the wrath of God. (reference: The Devotional Bible "Experiencing the Heart of Jesus" Max Lucado, General Editor.
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"So anyway, all 3 MLK quotes sound like Wright. The substance of what they are saying is identical yet Wright is vilified and MLK gets a free pass." —–>
Because a poser is just that. Not very original or true.
And it is a shame that the media, and the election of 08 have found the one thing that could keep Senator Barak Obama from becoming the first Black President of the United States and it is something that he has not done or said personally but has been held accountable for the actions of a grown man who is responsible enough to handle his own. Genesis 6 – 9 speaks of a human race becoming evil, the flood, and a New Beginning. God does punish sin and protects righteousness.
The reason Obama should NOT be president is that his politics are liberal. Just because he is black is no reason to vote for or against him.
God does punish sins, like abortion, which Obama does NOT care about, even though a hugely disproportionate amount of black babies are aborted daily. Perhaps Rev. Wright ought to care about the epidemic of black fatherlessness and abortion rather than pointing the finger at white people and racism.
I am white, but my children are white/mexican, and we do not tolerate racism in our home. Neither do our friends, who are predominantly anglo, mexican, and eastern Indian.
Rev. Wright is intelligent, and he says some good things. The problem is, because he has contaminated his messages with rants against whites and conspiracy theories, he is an impure stream. We don't need that kind of blameshifting and race-baiting – it doesn't fix the problem it attempts to address, it makes it worse.
And lately, Obama has done a great job of affirming this.
The reason Obama should NOT be president is that his politics are liberal. Just because he is black is no reason to vote for or against him.
Alternatively, the reason Obama should not be president is that he does not have enough experience to be president. Liberal politics aside Seeker, one can have the right kind of politics, but still lack sufficient experience to run a country of +300 million people.
Experience is my my yardstick.
Also, just because Obama may become the first black person to be president does not mean one should vote for him just because he may be the first.
If his politics and experience don't measure up to a voter's yardstick, then not voting for him even though he may be the first black president is also a very good reason.
To vote for a person just because he has a good shot of being the first (insert ethnic background here) president, is not a good reason to vote for a person.
I sure would like to see a black, mexican, openly gay, etc president, but in this case, not this black candidate.
For an election that is supposed to be above racial division, there sure is a lot of racial division coming from the African American community.
Well said, silver