An Oregon ‘man’ (born a woman) who is partway through gender reassignment has gotten pregnant. So, after having ‘chest reconstruction’ to look like a man (basically, a mastectomy), and testosterone treatments so that she can grow facial hair and such, she got pregnant before they efeminized her private parts – that is, before they killed her vagina and gave her a ‘penis.’ What shall we say about this?
Al Mohler discusses it briefly in his latest podcast, and makes some interesting points about Christians needing to move past disgust into compassion for those caught in such dire confusion, and asks us to start thinking about how we can serve, love, and reach out to those who are caught in the gay/transgender self-concepts.
But I would like to add that we need to reaffirm the truth of biological and emotional gender norms, and resist the urge to accept the dysfunctional trans and gay identities being pushed as normative.
Let’s assume for the moment that it is NOT a hoax. This brings up many interesting things to consider.
1. Is this really a pregnant man?
This is a woman who rejected her biological gender, but continued to have sex as a woman with female reproductive parts. She reports that she decided to stop her testosterone treatments 8 months back, and did not think that she would get pregnant.
2. If she is with ‘another’ woman, how did she get pregnant?
Science to the rescue – she got pregnant via artificial insemination. So a woman who wants to be a man gets pregnant on purpose? She is doing one of two things (or both). First, she may be trying to challenge our understanding of gender out of a rebellion against gender norms (set by biology and culture). Second, she may be merely exploring her confusion over her own gender, wanting to be a man, but still having the desires of nature for a child.
3. Is the transgender identity similar to homosexuality in its roots, or something wholly other?
I don’t quite understand the psychology behind transgender identify formation, but I assume that it is not just a sexual attraction problem, but really, a deeper self-identity problem. In my mind, however, it probably shares its origins with the Root Causes of Male Homosexuality, which are a rejection of self, coupled with a rejection of one’s own gender, grounded in such things as rejection of gender stereotypes (like the macho male or hyperfeminized female), sexual molestation, emotional abuse or passivity by one or both partents, etc.
4. How does she feel about this whole thing?
How does it feel to be a pregnant man? Incredible. Despite the fact that my belly is growing with a new life inside me, I am stable and confident being the man that I am. In a technical sense I see myself as my own surrogate, though my gender identity as male is constant. To Nancy, I am her husband carrying our child—I am so lucky to have such a loving, supportive wife. I will be my daughter’s father, and Nancy will be her mother. We will be a family.
Translation? She has no problem maintaining a male psyche while carrying a baby. Her mental ‘stability’ will certainly lend credence to the claim that such things are normative alternatives.
5. How is society reacting?
As per the article in the Advocate, she is having problems with doctors not wanting to use the male pronoun, and other rejection. The Oregonian has run three successive articles:
We have only begun experiencing opposition from people who are upset by our situation. Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Health care professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognize Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy’s family doesn’t even know I’m transgender.
6. How do we respond as Christians?
First, we reaffirm the biological norms of male and female, and explain what those are, as well as what those are not (e.g. machoism or extreme passivity).
Second, we declare that homosexuality and transgender identity are unhealthy dysfunctions, and that both psychology and faith have curative solutions for such illnesses.
Third, we think of new ways to reach out to these hurting populations, starting with the most needy, since the ‘least’ needy (i.e. those that aren’t yet physically ill from STDs or the emotional duress of being at odds with their biology) are probably resistant, if not in open defiance to biological gender norms and actively pursuing offensive political strategies. Such outreach should include
- Increased volunteerism in serving those in late stages of AIDS
- Small groups geared towards inclusion of gays while they explore the biblical views of manhood, womanhood, sexuality, and gender
- Gentler and less judgmental, but honest preaching on sexuality from the pulpits
Lastly, we must continue legislative efforts to establish hetero monogamy as the norm for acceptable marriage in our society, especially the Federal Marriage Amendment. This is not primarily to change the minds of existing GLBT people, but to prevent our children from being indoctrinated in the gay apologetic via the schools, but rather, promote healthy societal norms.
CONCLUSION
This pregnant ‘man’ is just another face in the ongoing struggle of transgenders and gays to be accepted as they are, or, as we conservatives see it, the ongoing struggle of individual and social health against the onslaught of a sexually confused and sinful society trying to justify its sin. May God have mercy on us.
That conclusion sounds like you lament the fact that extreme Islam has a stranglehold on
executingsuppressing "infidels."I don't get your point.
For one thing, I object to your facile conflation of this ludicrous transgender freak show with gay people and our fight for equal treatment under the law. Transgender issues have little if anything to do with gay people, no matter what the activists say. In fact, I resent being lumped together with trannies. I have no problem with my gender identity, despite your strange and baseless "analysis" of gay motivation (ie, "…a rejection of self, coupled with a rejection of one's own gender, grounded in such things as rejection of gender stereotypes (like the macho male or hyperfeminized female), sexual molestation, emotional abuse or passivity by one or both partents, etc."). I don't reject myself; I don't reject my gender; I don't reject "macho" males; nor have I ever been molested or been abused or rejected by either of my parents. In fact, my biography looks pretty much like that of my straight friends.
Of course, my declaration will have no effect on you, seeker. I have seen how, over and over, you are confronted with the facts and simply ignore them. This is why I have labeled you a bigot on this topic: your position is totally irrational, baseless, and flies in the face of the vast majority of scientists' findings. Your faith has poisoned you and left no room for reason to take a hand. In the past, I have tracked down your "evidence," only to trace it to fundamentalist Christian groups intent on conjuring up phony studies to bolster their anti-gay dogmas. In short, your assertions just don't stand up. Your present attempt to smear gay people with this ridiculous story is good for a laugh and nothing more. So…
HA-HA!
flies in the face of the vast majority of scientists' findings.
You are absolutely lying on that point. I have referenced many studies, and there are NO definitive studies I know of that can prove hx to be normative.
I have tracked down your "evidence," only to trace it to fundamentalist Christian groups intent on conjuring up phony studies to bolster their anti-gay dogmas.
Not true. Many of the studies are done by mainstream scientists, but analyzed by reparative therapy advocates because most scientists are unwilling to look at their data from that perspective.
In short, your assertions just don't stand up. Your present attempt to smear gay people with this ridiculous story is good for a laugh and nothing more.
I can't believe that you are such an anti-transgender bigot! You don't even see that your derision for them is no different than the derision of healthy people for hx and trannies together.
Damn louis, i had to go grab that dictionary cin sent me!
The dude in the picture looks a six pack and a large pizza over the line!!
Many of the studies are done by mainstream scientists, but analyzed by reparative therapy advocates because most scientists are unwilling to look at their data from that perspective.
Translation: they don't spin the data according to anti-gay, religionist propaganda.
btw: My derision is reserved for this story you reference. Reread my comments: I merely separate gay issues and trannie issues. I resent the conflation and feel it has nothing to do with gay issues.
I understand why you say that they are very different, but to the general public, there is not much difference, esp. because they usually link up to protest and lobby together.
BTW, I look just like that 'man', belly and all. I have to lose that extra 40 lbs!
Hmmm…belly fat can be very dangerous. I recommend the South Beath Diet.
btw: I don't care what the cud-chewing general public thinks. Most are so woefully undereducated as to be worthy of little but contempt. I also don't care what the radical activists do: transexuals and transvestites have little to do with me or the way I live, and I resent being lumped in with them.
The Bible was inspired by God to express His love for those He created. The Bible also explains God's original plan for those He created, along with his laws that are not optional, but for the good of His children. Today's society has left God and his creation out of how they live their lives, which is out of God's will. Even though people have a choice how to live their lives, they do not have the right to tell us and God that we are wrong.
As a Christian, I actually thought this article was very well expressed. It was also said with love and concern for people, not to judge and bash them. But it seems in this society, that no matter how gentle and sincere we are, Christians are held by a noose until we give others the okay to live ungodly lives. But as God's children, we will stand by our convictions and beliefs, not because we don't want people to be happy, but that we have standards that God, the Creator Himself, has authorized for our lives.
People who do not hold claim to these truths are cowards and fools. That's not a judgment call from me, but it is written in God's word.
And I would think twice about telling God where to go. He, afterall, created you in His image. Think about it.
Nicely said Ann.
Why would god create gay people if they are meant to be 'unhealthy dysfunctions' ?
And, fyi, hetero marriage is not 'the norm' – see history, anthropology, sociology, biology, zoology, etc etc.
There is no God. Your beliefs are outright ploys to control your thoughts even though they sound nice to live by. The greatest crime against humanity is religion and i don't have the time or space to factually pick apart every hypocritical aspect of every religious major text including the Bible. We live together and not kill each other so much because it's genetically programmed to keep the species alive. Hence it's natural to want kids and to protect them. There are anomalies born time and time again through history. What you call a sin is one of these anomalies. They exist do to how the hormones in the body are set up. Of which are mostly innate. I am no friend to the religious communty as I work to dismantle them. Nor am I a friend to homosexuals as I am an androgyn. Or partially hermaphrodetic. But I am mostly male. You only see 2 genders. I see only 2 prominent sexes and everything of a combination of there after. There is no 3rd sex but combinations of the two which make up the variations in Sexuality and Physiology. Religion has no place in the world of truth of the observable world. We have medical science to save lives not further endanger them with the belief of spirits and ghosts. That's ridiculous and unproven. If a God existed they sure as all wouldn't be a gendered figure or figure to be human looking and infinite as the same time. You religious believers don't "think" you do and act according to what religious leaders and scripts tell you to. That's mental enslavement. I loath and pity and try as all I can to educate people the best I can. Things we know which means being able to prove it and not just say it. Is that homosexuality and transexuality are ever apart of the reoccuring numbers of anomalies not errors of creation of mammals. A religious mind has no room for thoughts outside their dictation of life. Thus my goal to remove such rubbish from their minds and replace a more respectable self disciplined ambition into their conscience. All I ask of you is to observe the world through eyes unclouded by religion or predjudice. Or burn in your own hells that you created with mortal hands and minds alone.