I’m sorry, but the more I research Islam, the more I realize that only a deluded fool could think it a religion of peace. This article (and this) have horrific pictures (not for children or the squeamish – extreme gore) of women and children who have been burned by acid by fellow Muslim men for such things as refusing to be married at 15. Have you seen this done in the name of Christianity in our time? Ever? This is as bad or worse than the crimes of social Darwinist Nazis or atheist Communists.
I don’t want to get caught up in condemning the dark when I should be holding up a light, nor do I want to focus on or demonize one particular group, but let me repeat that Islam is the single most deadly threat to modern civilization, and we should all unite to not only condemn these horrific practices and doctrines, and those of us who call ourselves Christian should also focus our prayers and labors on reaching the Muslims who are the victims of this oppressive, evil ideology. Right now, I am all talk and no action, but these pictures are deeply disturbing. I don’t even think it is worth arguing with atheists anymore. They are inert compared to such evils.
Seeker, unfortunately it seems you have embraced the idea of fighting fundamentalism with fundamentalism. Instead of fighting fire with fire, try water.
Um, I'm not sure exactly how your analogy makes sense, but I could say the same for you. Fighting fundamentalist Islam (which is just plain Islam if you read their Koran) with secularists fundamentalism (which throws out God with the extremists) is no solution.
You tell people there is no God. Fat chance that's gonna work. I tell them that the God they are following is actually a false and violent understanding of God, and I lift up the balanced God of love and holiness.
But anyway, I know that you are unable and unwilling to tell the difference between Islamists and conservative Christians, since your anti-revealed religion stance blinds you to all but naturalistic "faiths." That's your choice, but I disagree with your narrow and incomplete view of literal faiths.
BTW, have you seen in the news any Christian acid attacks lately? How about daily violence? (NOTE: Political activism and condemning sin doesn't count as violence unless you are against the first amendment).
Like I said Seeker. Fighting fundamentalism with fundamentalism is asinine. Try using reason instead. Even Ayaan Hirsi Ali agrees.
Reason alone can not reach people who believe (know) there is a God. You must present them with the truth of the just and loving God as well as reason.
Because xianity relies on faith AND reason, it is superior to reason alone. I am glad Hirsi Ali is revealing the darker side of Islam, but like many secularists, she may have thrown out the baby Jesus with the bathwater.
The bottom line is, I see a movement by moderate Muslims to secularize Islam. There is no movement among Muslims to Christianize Islam. The very notion is absurd.
Actually, there are Muslims who are coming to Christ and are trying to win other Mulsims for Christ, so in effect they are trying to "Christianize Islam."
Hopefully, they are not simply Christian converts. I can point to many former Christians who converted to Islam. Is the movement you mention more substantial than this? If not, it's not even worth considering.
I don't know about "Christianizing" Islam. Christians have always evangelized Muslims to save them from the wicked deception they are subject to. There are entire ministries dedicated to sending missionaries to Muslims.
And of course, there are secular organizations trying to secularize Muslims, and "moderate" Muslim organizations trying to take Islam back from the terrorists (but who would want Mohammed anyway, besided the terrorists?).
Moderate Islam is, again, a bit of a misnomer because to be moderate, they must not follow the example or teachings of Mohammed very closely at all. I mean, they would need to oppose many of them.