It seems like it has been all Obama, all the time, so I thought I would give Hillary a little attention. She finally decided to give her take on the Rev. Wright fiasco and accidentally I suppose it just happened to coincide with the breaking of her own little scandal – claiming she was dodging sniper fire in a war zone while she was actually hugging this little girl in a welcoming ceremony.
In saying she went to Bosnia and flew in under sniper fire, she didn’t "misspeak" or make a "mistake" or "misremember" or any other euphemism her spin team can make up. She lied. Flat out. Bald faced. LIE.
Here’s Col David Hunt, who was in charge of securing the air base where Hillary landed under imaginary sniper fire. Needless to say, he’s not too happy.
But politically, here’s the problem for Obama supporters. We, and everyone else, expects this from Hillary. Anyone who halfway pays attention to politics knows that Clintons lie and they will do so at the drop of a hat if it can help them politically. She’s a known commodity and this doesn’t bring us any new information.
Obama was (is) running as an agent of change, someone who could bring the nation together – the Healer in Chief. For many, it was shocking to hear his pastor and spiritual adviser for 20 years speak with such hatred and vitriol.
For better or worse, wrong or right (no pun intended), the Wright story will hang around longer than the bogus snipers in Tuzla. Part of the reason is the higher expectations people had (have) for Obama. They know Clinton is going to lie. They didn’t (don’t) think Obama would associated himself so closely with hate speech.
If nothing else, the Democratic primary has been entertaining or at least intriguing in a can’t-look-away-from-the-train-wreck kinda way.
And McCain is laughing all the way to the bank as the Dems embarrass themselves. He doesn't have to attack them at all while they attack one another.
Yes, aren't these "senior moments" hilarious? Like when McCain goofed on Iran while in Jordan and had to be corrected by Lieberman? It sure made me feel better about his grasp of foreign affairs.
Flipping Iran and Syria is one thing, although many are saying that he shouldn't have changed it because it wasn't a mistake, but LYING about landing under sniper fire is something totally different.
If it was a simple matter of Hillary saying she landed in a different city that would be one thing, but to vividly remember dodging nonexistent sniper fire is something totally different.
McCain can, and has screwed up, but the instance you mentioned in not even close to being on par with Clinton's lie, not misspeak, but lie.
Yes, yes, I knew you'd excuse McCain and revile Hillary. That's why I baited you, and you fell for it! HA-HA!
When McCain is president, none of this will matter anymore.
If McCain is prez, you mean. With a tanking economy, an unpopular war in Iraq heating up, and general pissed-offedness at Republicans, I seriously doubt that McCain can win. Be realistic: the economy alone will sink his candidacy, fairly or not.
Well, both candidates have circumstances and attributes against them.
McCain is a Republican after many years of Reps, and there is a bad economy and an unpopular war. However, he is popular with independents, and if his vp choice brings in the neocons, he could be formidable.
Obama is well spoken and also appeals to the more liberal moderates, but he is inexperienced by comparison, is very liberal, has a black eye (pun intended) from the Rev. Wright ordeal, and is black, which may work against him, regardless of what people say to pollsters.
Yes, the race issue will probably weight against him among some groups, but help in others. On the other hand, the age issue probably won't help McCain either, and yet another neo-con is the last thing we need. He also has a nasty temper, I hear. I still think the economy spells doom for Republicans this year, especially if the Dems can link it to the war.
You didn't bait me. I responded to your statement equating saying the wrong country name with lying about running from sniper fire. The two don't compare.
Again, I'm not a huge McCain fan. He's said some stupid things and when you see him lie point it out. More than likely, I'll agree with you, but this is apples and oranges with this.
It's so funny that in the post about Obama, you and Cineaste were ripping Hillary left and right, but once I post something about Hillary lying you rush to her defense. She's the same person doing the same things whether her opponent is Obama or McCain.
You are correct here: Hillary will do anything to win – anything at all, including destroying the Democratic party. I'm getting so I can't stand her or her husband because power is what they worship. For me, it's Obama or nothing at all.
"I'm getting so I can't stand her or her husband because power is what they worship." ——->
What took you so long.
"For me, it's Obama or nothing at all." ——->
Why? Marxism sucks.
"I'm getting so I can't stand her or her husband because power is what they worship"
"For me, it's Obama or nothing at all."
I find it incredibly naive to think that any candidate running for higher office does not in some way have a lust for power…and in some way by the end of their term become somewhat corrupt. Yes, this includes Obama.
The fact that Obama has run a arguably "cleaner" campaign does not discount that possibility. To run for higher office in Modern America one has to have that lust I am afraid.
The presidential election cycle this time around has yielded very mediocre candidates on all sides in my opinion.
However, modern America seems to prefer to elect mediocre people to lead the country.
– Silver
modern America seems to prefer to elect mediocre people to lead the country.
The leaders are, in general, just a reflection of the people. Three fingers are pointing back at you and me. Want better candidates? Be a better person, and encourage others to do so.
"The leaders are, in general, just a reflection of the people. Three fingers are pointing back at you and me." ——->
Yes, it feels like all middle fingers.
"The presidential election cycle this time around has yielded very mediocre candidates on all sides in my opinion."
Hi, Silver. Welcome back. Any word on significant legislation McCain passed other than McCain Feingold? Obama is very strong in my opinion. Who were you for anyway? Ron Paul? Romney?
"Mediocre candidates"? What did you expect? This is a democracy after all. Do you really think that the common voter would ever select someone superior to himself? No room for elitists in America.
Apathy kills.
Question: What's the worse problem in America, ignorance or apathy?
Answer: Who knows and who cares?
“Answer: Who knows and who cares?” ——->
Exactly. That is why we have such scintillating(i looked that one up in the thesaurus, cin) candidates.