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July 9, 2006

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New York Court Rules Out Gay Marriage

Last week, a top New York court ruled in favor of traditional marriage.  Stacy Harp reported on it, and summarized the critical reasoning in the court’s decision:

  1. The welfare of the children.
    “First, the Legislature could rationally decide that, for the welfare of children, it is more important to promote stability, and to avoid instability, in opposite-sex than in same-sex relationships. Heterosexual intercourse has a natural tendency to lead to the birth of children; homosexual intercourse does not. Despite the advances of science, it remains true that the vast majority of children are born as a result of a sexual relationship between a man and a woman, and the Legislature could find that this will continue to be true.”
  2. A child needs a mother and a father.
    “There is a second reason: The Legislature could rationally believe that it is better, other things being equal, for children to grow up with both a mother and a father. Intuition and experience suggest that a child benefits from having before his or her eyes, every day, living models of what both a man and a woman are like.”
  3. The plantiff’s did not prove their case based on prejudice.
    “Plaintiffs have not persuaded us that this longaccepted restriction is a wholly irrational one, based solely on ignorance and prejudice against homosexuals.”
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  1. Jul 10 2006

    1. There are literally thousands of children without homes in the United States because parents wanting to adopt don’t want to adopt damaged goods. Increasing the number of available homes might increase the possibility of adoption for those sorts of kids. What’s telling here is this nonsense about “Protect the Children” as if children are being damaged by growing up with gay parents. What’s damaging to those children is the attitudes of those who refuse to tolerate such situations, IE, Seeker’s attitude, although heaven forbid he ever take responsibility for the damage that his attitude does.
    2. If you genuinely believe this Seeker, then let’s end marriage after the woman goes through menopause, as she can no longer have children. Let’s prevent new marriage for post-menopausal. Let’s prevent any marriage that occurs without the intent to have children. My girlfriend and I have no interest in having children – obviously, we shouldn’t be allowed to get married. This argument too is complete nonsense. Nobody believes that having children should be the gold standard for marriage. It’s just another smokescreen put up by the likes of you, and by those who can’t accept change. (I mean, Seeker, if its turns out you’re impotent, I doubt that you want to see your marriage dissolved.)
    3. Nobody has argued that marriage was created to discriminate against gays. We have argued that it is discrimination to keep gays out of marriage. Don’t confuse the two.

  2. Sep 12 2006

    No smokescreens here, Sam. Homosexuality is wrong, plain and simple. There is no constitutional right to marriage for homosexuals. I’ll grant you, the arguments you mention in your comment are weak arguments against homosexual marriage, and are, indeed, smokescreens. However, simply because those particular arguments are weak doesn’t mean that by default homosexual marriage should be allowed. Allowing homosexual marriage or even “civil unions” is a lot more than accepting change. It is the ultimate blurring of a moral standard and the last step in an all out eradication of the genders.
    The 3 points listed in the post, as presented from the court in New York are the first reasonable thing that we’ve heard from the Judicial system regarding homosexuality. The Homosexual Rights arguments are bankrupt of logic and morality.

  3. Sep 11 2006

    Mikbry24,
    Sorry, but you're going to have to bring more than the standard Christian nonsense of "homosexuality is wrong, plain and simple." You owe us better than that, and since I know you don't have it, I'm not going to take your comment seriously. But I will do one thing with your comment, and that's recognize how you're just like every other anti-gay-marriage activist: you hate gays. When you're at the point that you admit that your own arguments are complete crap, then your opposition must come down to something more fundamental. And there's nothing more fundamental than gay hatred.

  4. Sep 11 2006

    Homosexuality is wrong, plain and simple.
    This is what your imaginary God tells you to believe. Think for yourself. What are your reasons for thinking homosexuality is wrong "plain and somple?"

  5. Sep 11 2006

    Because it's gross Cineaste. You know that's what it comes down to.

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